April 3, 2026

Same Time Next Week - Anxiety Recovery in the "Gaps" (Episode 150)

Same Time Next Week - Anxiety Recovery in the "Gaps" (Episode 150)
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In this milestone episode of Disordered, we discuss the concepts in Josh's upcoming book. The conversation focuses on the gaps in anxiety recovery and the modern hurdles that prevent people from effectively practicing desensitization.


They break down how the obsession with "optimization" and the "wellness brosphere" often becomes a distraction from the actual work of recovery. Using case studies from the book, they examine the different ways people try to avoid vulnerability by using hacks or curated identities.


CASE STUDIES:


Magnus: A young man with agoraphobia who tries to "alpha" his way out of his annex. He relies on supplements and wellness protocols rather than facing the fear directly.


Lia Su: A wellness influencer who hides severe OCD behind a perfect online persona. Her story explores how making mental health an identity can lead to more avoidance.


Ruben Kane: A retired boxer dealing with gambling issues and the shame of no longer feeling like the tough guy. His story looks at how anxiety can infiltrate a singular identity.


Miriam: A student therapist learning to navigate imposter syndrome. Josh and Drew discuss why self doubt is actually a valuable tool for growth and curiosity.


CORE CONCEPTS


Delayed Gratification: This explores the struggle to be patient in a world where everything else is instant.


Vulnerability: Recovery involves moving away from fixing or regulating and moving toward being okay with being afraid.


The Gaps: This involves identifying the subtle things we do that keep us stuck in the anxiety cycle.


Real Fear vs Real Danger: This episode emphasizes that while the fear you feel is real, you are not in actual danger.


Psychological Flexibility: You benefit more from learning to be with difficult internal experiences like anxiety and fear rather than trying to control or prevent them.


Gradual Progress: Recovery is about taking small, practical steps rather than looking for a magic solution.


BOOK INFORMATION

Josh’s new book, Same Time Next Week, is available for pre order. If you pre order before May 14th, you can receive an exclusive ebook on intrusive thoughts and a morning anxiety audio guide.


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The Disordered Guide to Health Anxiety is now available. If you're struggling with health anxiety, this book is for you.

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